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Straight Shooter
2012-05-27, 11:20
And if you disagree, fuck you you're wrong. :)

Will E Worm
2012-05-27, 13:08
:facepalm:

I am going to torture you. :elaugh:

StanScratch
2012-05-27, 13:44
Torture only works if a person does not want information, or are trying to get a person to say something which fits their personal needs, and are not all that concerned with getting actual facts. Every quality interrogator knows this. A person under the duress of torture will say anything - anything - to get out of the pain. He will even sell out his mother, if you ask him.

Pattheprovo
2012-05-27, 14:07
Torture isn't about information. It never was.

PS> It's a stupid little lie for the sensibilities of the liars. You want to hurt the enemy. You want them to pay.

lurkingdirk
2012-05-27, 14:08
I get pretty frisky with a bit of torture.

Just sayin. It works for me.

Mayhem
2012-05-27, 16:51
I wish someone would explain to me why we bothered to waterboard Islamist when they probably have zero tolerance to chemical interrogation. Waterboard them with some Jack Daniels....you'll have the info your looking for, pronto. Slip them my old friend, THC and they'll not only sing, they'll probably defect.

Straight Shooter
2012-05-27, 17:45
I wish someone would explain to me why we bothered to waterboard Islamist when they probably have zero tolerance to chemical interrogation. Waterboard them with some Jack Daniels....you'll have the info your looking for, pronto. Slip them my old friend, THC and they'll not only sing, they'll probably defect.

Waterboarding didn't phase them. Understand they prepared for far worse, they were trained to withstand way harsher treatment by authoritarian governments like Egypt. Case in point, KSM was waterboarded 183 times. If waterrboarding works why did you have to do it 183 times lol

Trident1
2012-05-27, 19:21
Does it work? Yes and we should keep doing it against any Islamist we capture who may have info we need. I'm sure we're still doing it against high value targets.

lurkingdirk
2012-05-27, 19:24
Does it work? Yes and we should keep doing it against any Islamist we capture who may have info we need. I'm sure we're still doing it against high value targets.

Can we use torture on Christians that we capture, and think have some info we need, too?

Straight Shooter
2012-05-27, 23:45
Does it work? Yes and we should keep doing it against any Islamist we capture who may have info we need. I'm sure we're still doing it against high value targets.

1. Provide evidence that torture is an effective tool
2. Obama banned torture by an executive order. However we still employ extraordinary rendition

PirateKing
2012-05-28, 09:00
Depends on what you're trying to get. I jizz buckets.

Bearded_Menace
2012-05-28, 15:38
Torture has never really been the end all solution to extracting information from captives. One only need to look at history(Witch Hunts, Inquisition, Reign of Terror, Persecution of the Templars, etc.) to see that it isn't anywhere near as efficient as advocates of torture think it is. This is mainly due to the fact that you can get anyone to admit to just about anything when they are being tortured. Most people would give or do anything to get the pain to stop.

Mayhem
2012-05-28, 15:58
Waterboarding didn't phase them. Understand they prepared for far worse, they were trained to withstand way harsher treatment by authoritarian governments like Egypt. Case in point, KSM was waterboarded 183 times. If waterrboarding works why did you have to do it 183 times lol

Exactly the point. If they had just slipped the guy some Sodium Pentothol, and probably a much lighter dose than a westerner would need, they could have saved everyone a lot of trouble.

Torture only exists because there are many sadistic fucks out there and the vast majority of them don't wear a sign that says, "Sadistic Fuck".

Trident1
2012-05-28, 22:07
Can we use torture on Christians that we capture, and think have some info we need, too?


I don't see any Christian "Jihadists" that have been captured. So far they all belong to to the Islamic faith.

PirateKing
2012-05-28, 22:14
I don't see any Christian "Jihadists" that have been captured. So far they all belong to to the Islamic faith.
http://webtrax.hu/myfacewhen/faces/lineart-memes/you-dont-say.jpg

Obviously...since "jihadist" is a specific term for Islamic terrorists, like "crusader" was for Christians. That's like saying there aren't any white Black panthers or black KKK.

Will E Worm
2012-05-28, 23:02
I don't see any Christian "Jihadists" that have been captured. So far they all belong to to the Islamic faith.

Also, no Christian suicide bombers. ;)

Mayhem
2012-05-29, 00:10
Also, no Christian suicide bombers. ;)

Allah promises 72 virgins to those who martyr themselves. If Jesus promised a Lexus, condo in Miami and an untraceable account in the Caymans, there'd be pasty-white suicide bombers running around everywhere.

CptHa
2012-05-29, 00:46
I don't see any Christian "Jihadists" that have been captured. So far they all belong to to the Islamic faith.

You're forgetting that Breivik fucker in Norway and the people who bomb abortion clinics. I doubt those crazies are as organized as Al Qaeda, but they are still terrorists. As mentioned above, if it worked, why was it done 183 times? It'd be a lot easier to put them on an IV bag of vodka to get them talking. More to the point, why stoop to their level? It's much more fun blowing them up while they're getting goat pussy.

Will E Worm
2012-05-29, 13:26
Allah promises 72 virgins to those who martyr themselves. If Jesus promised a Lexus, condo in Miami and an untraceable account in the Caymans, there'd be pasty-white suicide bombers running around everywhere.

Nah. Also, why just whites? There are people are different cultures and colors that are Christians.

Blanket statement. :nono:


You're forgetting that Breivik fucker in Norway and the people who bomb abortion clinics. I doubt those crazies are as organized as Al Qaeda, but they are still terrorists. As mentioned above, if it worked, why was it done 183 times? It'd be a lot easier to put them on an IV bag of vodka to get them talking. More to the point, why stoop to their level? It's much more fun blowing them up while they're getting goat pussy.

They are not Christians. Norway shooter is a Freemason. The information he was a "right wing" Christian was all falsified.

CptHa
2012-06-01, 05:18
^Horseshit.

Will E Worm
2012-06-01, 13:53
^Horseshit.

Your comment certainly is. :baconsalt:

Without any proof. :tongue:

PirateKing
2012-06-01, 14:08
Nah. Also, why just whites? There are people are different cultures and colors that are Christians.

Blanket statement. :nono:



They are not Christians. Norway shooter is a Freemason. The information he was a "right wing" Christian was all falsified.
Why is information only falsehood when it contradicts your beliefs?

Will E Worm
2012-06-01, 15:58
Why is information only falsehood when it contradicts your beliefs?

:facepalm: It's not.

xfire
2012-06-01, 16:25
When The Asshat Of The Year posts a facepalm it's his official signal of surrender.

Will E Worm
2012-06-01, 16:41
When The Asshat Of The Year posts a facepalm it's his official signal of surrender.

Non-comeback. :tongue: You abdicate your position.

xfire
2012-06-01, 18:11
That doesn't even make sense, Asshat.

zeeblofowl_1969
2012-06-01, 22:48
Just pure entertainment!

mikexmoran
2012-06-01, 23:20
Torture works for me. Cherry Torn and Calico Slave are two good examples.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thedebate/2005/11/one_of_the_bigg.html

D-rock
2012-06-02, 03:08
Even if torture was effective, which it isn't, that's irrelevant. Just because some might work doesn't suddenly turn something that's wrong and evil into something that's okay. The ends don't justify the means even if the means can make something happen.

Even if it was 100% that doesn't somehow give it justification.

CptHa
2012-06-05, 03:38
Your comment certainly is. :baconsalt:

Without any proof. :tongue:

So where's your proof? Ultimately, it doesn't matter if its effective or not, it's illegal according to the United States Constitution, the Geneva Conventions, International Law, and the Law of Armed Combat.

vodkazvictim
2012-06-07, 15:01
Torture does or doesn't work? I'm confused. Maybe I should be tortureduntil the evidence becomes obvious. I shall now unblock Will E Wurm and read his entire post history. At the end of this torture I shall post a poll asking if it has "worked".