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    If you didn't know any better you would have thought that the Washington Nationals purposely threw the game tonight.They screwed up in almost every way imaginable.Even when the Cub's bullpen gave them every opportunity to come back and they still shot themselves in the foot.
    On another note.It's absolutely ridiculous that a 9 inning game took over 4 and a half hours to play.The number of times the pitching coaches came out to the mound was beyond terrible.

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    Yeah that game was painful to watch. What a battle of attrition! Absolutely heroic performance in relief by Wade Davis. I think Maddon himself would have had to take the mound if somehow the Nats had tied it in the 9th and the game had gone to extra innings. The Nats and Dusty Baker seem to be pre-programmed to implode at the most crucial times because they sure found plenty of ways to fuck things up last night. Errors, dropped third strikes, wild pitches, hit batsmen....it was a fundamental disaster. I thought Baker made a huge tactical error by not having his hitters take pitches against Davis in the 9th instead of swinging away. I'm convinced that Davis was incapable of throwing 3 legitimate strikes in any at-bat before he would have thrown 4 balls. His arm must have felt like jello....he got the Nats to swing at some pitches that were out of the strike zone as evidenced by the final swinging strike against Bryce Harper to end the game. Poor Nats fans! Cubs have a quick turnaround and will be up against it tomorrow night with Kershaw likely toeing the rubber for the Dodgers. Should be a great series but I'll take LA in 7.

    Likewise with the Yanks/Astros series. If it comes down to a battle of the bullpens the Yankees have the edge but the Stros are loaded from top to bottom and New York's starting pitching can't match up to a combo of Keuchel and Verlander so it will be very important for Houston to jump out ahead and maintain leads in this series. If the Yankees are ahead going into the 7th it will be very tough for Houston to overcome. Still, I like the Astros to rise to the occasion in this one and win it in 7 games.

    Of course, the media is hoping for an LA/NY matchup in the World Series and would also be very happy with a Cubs/Yanks series. Houston, although a huge media market, is not a baseball-crazed city and does not command the following that the other teams involved do. I'd like to see them win for provincial reasons since I am a huge baseball fan and would like to see Texas become more focused on it instead of it just being football all the time....probably a pipe dream but it would still be fun to see the Astros advance.


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    Yankees vs Astros Game 2.. Verlander pitched a beautiful complete game. You couldn't ask for a better ending.


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    I'm rooting for the Cubs ... just because the LAD are in the NLCS.

    My observation of the play at the plate:

    Joe Maddon was a big critic of the "Posey Rule" when he was the manager of the Tampa Bay Rays - He criticized Bruce Bochy and the entire Giant organization unmercifully. Serves him right that he now gets ejected because of it.

    And yet Ron Darling defends Joe Maddon and the play. He thinks Charlie Culbertson was out.

    Ron Darling is a jackass! On a separate note, I dislike him and Gary Cohen, the Mets broadcasters immensely. If I watch a Mets game. I shut the sound off and listen to Howie Rose. Howie Rose is an excellent broadcaster not like "homer" rah-rah guys like Darling and Cohen.

    Dave Roberts was correct in asking for the play to be reviewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_8581 View Post
    I'm rooting for the Cubs ... just because the LAD are in the NLCS.

    My observation of the play at the plate:

    Joe Maddon was a big critic of the "Posey Rule" when he was the manager of the Tampa Bay Rays - He criticized Bruce Bochy and the entire Giant organization unmercifully. Serves him right that he now gets ejected because of it.

    And yet Ron Darling defends Joe Maddon and the play. He thinks Charlie Culbertson was out.

    Ron Darling is a jackass! On a separate note, I dislike him and Gary Cohen, the Mets broadcasters immensely. If I watch a Mets game. I shut the sound off and listen to Howie Rose. Howie Rose is an excellent broadcaster not like "homer" rah-rah guys like Darling and Cohen.

    Dave Roberts was correct in asking for the play to be reviewed.
    I like both the Mets television and radio broadcast teams. On the flip side, I can't stand any other broadcast team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkwarrior3007 View Post
    I like both the Mets television and radio broadcast teams. On the flip side, I can't stand any other broadcast team.
    Thumps down on Gary Cohen and Ron Darling! Ugh. I can't stand those "homer" rah-rah guys. I mentioned Howie Rose. Yes, he's an excellent broadcaster. Keith Hernandez is also an excellent analyst. The thing is that he cannot say how he really feels on certain plays. He's passionate. Although, SNY does not censor him, they do restrict his conversations. He has criticized the Mets Chief Operating Officer Jeff Wilpon in the past. And SNY has told him to tone it down. Since Sandy Alderson has taken over as the General Manager, Keith hasn't really said anything bad about the Mets. Because Sandy is trying to revitalize the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RASQ View Post
    Yankees vs Astros Game 2.. Verlander pitched a beautiful complete game. You couldn't ask for a better ending.
    He sure did but Keuchel was just as good the previous game for the Stros. They are going to be hard to beat in a 7 game series since you'll see both of these guys twice if it goes 7 games and they each look to be almost unhittable the way they are pitching. Yanks only chance is to get to the Astros bullpen early and with a lead. NY has the advantage in the relief corps so Joe Girardi has got to hope his hitters can find a way to squeeze out some runs against Houston's starters.

    Quote Originally Posted by John_8581 View Post
    I'm rooting for the Cubs ... just because the LAD are in the NLCS.

    My observation of the play at the plate:

    Joe Maddon was a big critic of the "Posey Rule" when he was the manager of the Tampa Bay Rays - He criticized Bruce Bochy and the entire Giant organization unmercifully. Serves him right that he now gets ejected because of it.

    And yet Ron Darling defends Joe Maddon and the play. He thinks Charlie Culbertson was out.

    Ron Darling is a jackass! On a separate note, I dislike him and Gary Cohen, the Mets broadcasters immensely. If I watch a Mets game. I shut the sound off and listen to Howie Rose. Howie Rose is an excellent broadcaster not like "homer" rah-rah guys like Darling and Cohen.

    Dave Roberts was correct in asking for the play to be reviewed.
    Contreras plainly stuck his leg out and blocked Culberson from reaching the plate....a clear violation of the rule. Uncle Joe can whine all he wants but them's the rules, like 'em or not.

    I know the networks are rooting for a NY-LA or Chicago series but I am really jumping on this Astros bandwagon since my Redbirds are Deadbirds again this year. Houston has an exciting and extremely talented team....fun to watch. They've never won a world series in almost 60 years of existence. This city was decimated by Hurricane Harvey and could use some good news for a change and this baseball team is just the ticket. I don't care who they play from the NL....they can compete with anybody. Go Stros!


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    Bye,bye,Cubs!
    Dodgers will be tough to beat now that they will be able to line their starting pitching up the way they want to for the Series.
    I still think that Justin Turner is John Kruk's long lost son.

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    Congrats to the Dodgers. They totally dominated the Cubs and will make a formidable opponent to their counterpart from the AL in the Series.

    The Yankees have taken the LCS right away from Houston. The Astros bats have gone silent and they appear to be pressing now so I give NY the clear advantage. Still, I would not be surprised to see Houston take game six with Verlander on the hill so I wouldn't count the Stros out just yet but it will be an uphill climb no matter how you slice it. The media is salivating over a potential LA/NY World Series.


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    The Astros bats came to life especially against Luis Severino and Dave Robertson, winning 7-1. Justin Verlander pitched another masterpiece again. Tomorrow night is game 7. Congratulations to Dave Roberts and his coaching staff for winning the NL Crown and bringing the NL Pennant back to Los Angeles. But I cannot, in all honesty, root for their players or their team in the World Series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_8581 View Post
    But I cannot, in all honesty, root for their players or their team in the World Series.
    Aw c'mon now John you all have got three rings to lord over us can't you at least root for us to get one?

    My guess: All depends on game one. If the Dodgers lose game one I'll take the 'Stros in 6. If not I'll take them in 7.

    PS: I hate the 2-3-2 format. Hate it. All it takes is a split of the first two to give the visiting team a slight advantage, which should not be the case. Give me the old 2-2-1-1-1. That was fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pool_hustler View Post
    Aw c'mon now John you all have got three rings to lord over us can't you at least root for us to get one?

    My guess: All depends on game one. If the Dodgers lose game one I'll take the 'Stros in 6.

    PS: I hate the 2-3-2 format. Hate it. All it takes is a split of the first two to give the visiting team a slight advantage, which should not be the case. Give me the old 2-2-1-1-1. That was fair.
    The Dodgers ownership says they only retire numbers of Hall of Famers. Yet Jim Gilliam's # 19 has been retired and he's not in the HOF. When the Dodgers retire Gil Hodges' # 14 and Steve Garvey's # 6 then maybe I'll root for them.

    But until then .... NO!

    The Dodgers ownership, fanbase and community should honor Gil Hodges and Steve Garvey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pool_hustler View Post
    Aw c'mon now John you all have got three rings to lord over us can't you at least root for us to get one?

    My guess: All depends on game one. If the Dodgers lose game one I'll take the 'Stros in 6. If not I'll take them in 7.

    PS: I hate the 2-3-2 format. Hate it. All it takes is a split of the first two to give the visiting team a slight advantage, which should not be the case. Give me the old 2-2-1-1-1. That was fair.
    I despise the format as well. Is MLB really so cheap they can't afford the extra travel in a standard 2-2-1-1-1 format? A split on the road now is a possible death sentence for the home club from my view as well.

    Bums have the advantage in both starting and relief pitching so I give them an edge in that department. If the Astros bats stay hot they'll be tough to beat however and Kershaw has shown vulnerability in the past in the playoffs so we'll see how he does this year. Stros need Keuchel and Verlander to be shut-down starters that go deep for Houston to have a legitimate shot in my book. Should be a great series, looking forward to it, being a Houston boy I have to say Stros in 7 but I ain't betting on it.


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    Gotta get Springer going. With two lefties against them to start, Bregman will bat second. If Reddick can be a spark at the bottom of the order, they can do some damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feller469 View Post
    Gotta get Springer going. With two lefties against them to start, Bregman will bat second. If Reddick can be a spark at the bottom of the order, they can do some damage.
    Reddick looks like a deer in the headlights right now. These guys need to relax and just play baseball. To quote Clint Hurdle when it comes to the playoffs...."The game don't know how big it is".


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    Reddick got a hit in his first AB. Maybe he got himself a slump-buster.
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    Dodgers = Good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Velvet View Post
    Dodgers = Good
    They are. No weaknesses.

    The Stros need to man up and start hitting. I'll give 'em a pass on Kershaw (he was almost unhittable last night....dude is GOOD) but when it's Verlander against Hill you'd have to believe this is not only winnable for Houston but it is a MUST win to have any chance in this series. If they lose with their ace pitching, they could be toast. Hitters need to relax, take a few pitches and quit lunging at everything. Kershaw made some of them look silly last night.


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    Hoping for a 'Stros series win, and don't want to see them swept again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feller469 View Post
    Hoping for a 'Stros series win, and don't want to see them swept again.
    It looks like the Astros are going back to Houston 0-2. Corey Seager just hit a 2-run home run off Justin Verlander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_8581 View Post
    It looks like the Astros are going back to Houston 0-2. Corey Seager just hit a 2-run home run off Justin Verlander.
    Edit: The LAD bullpen is collapsing. LOL - Morrow gives up a run, Jansen gives up a home run to Marwin Gonzalez, now Fields gives up two home runs. One to Jose Altuve and the other to Carlos Correa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagger69 View Post
    They are. No weaknesses.

    The Stros need to man up and start hitting. I'll give 'em a pass on Kershaw (he was almost unhittable last night....dude is GOOD) but when it's Verlander against Hill you'd have to believe this is not only winnable for Houston but it is a MUST win to have any chance in this series. If they lose with their ace pitching, they could be toast. Hitters need to relax, take a few pitches and quit lunging at everything. Kershaw made some of them look silly last night.
    Congrats on tonight’s game. It was a crushing loss for the Dodgers. If purely for entertainment purposes it sure was good. Back again on Friday in Houston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_8581 View Post
    It looks like the Astros are going back to Houston 0-2. Corey Seager just hit a 2-run home run off Justin Verlander.
    "It ain't over 'til it's over" - Yogi Berra

    It's why baseball is and shall ever remain my favorite sport. High drama. This is going to be a terrific series.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Velvet View Post
    Congrats on tonight’s game. It was a crushing loss for the Dodgers. If purely for entertainment purposes it sure was good. Back again on Friday in Houston.
    Thanks amigo but I am not really an Astros fan (diehard Cardinal fan although I will admit to being a bit of a bandwagoner right now since I live in Houston) so this series will be a relaxed baseball delight for me since I really don't have a horse in this race. I too am enjoying the terrific action....two great teams just going at it like a heavyweight title fight. More on Friday back at the Juice Box. Mid-level seats going for $2K plus. Think I'll watch on TV instead.


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    Roberts over-managed last night. Bregman having a heck of a series. Can keep Altuve down only so long. Dodgers will be back at Chavez Ravine, this is going at least 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagger69 View Post
    Mid-level seats going for $2K plus. Think I'll watch on TV instead.
    Those prices keep me at home too. I miss the atmosphere of being at the ballpark but I get a better view at home on the big screen. Heck, you could buy a big screen for $2K.

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