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    Exclamation Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Ok, no one will ever forget the september 11 attacks, but it seems the date itself is being forgotten.

    For years, the shopping centre ("mall") I worked in would sound an announcement telling the shoppers that a 1 minute silence was being held. And everyone would obey, and if they didn't, they'd get some nasty looks during and afterwards.

    Today, we had no announcement. No one was silent at all, at any point of the day. I spoke to the owner of my store, asked if we were going to have a minute silence. His reply was "for what?". A few seconds later he remembered, but for me it was the first thing I thought of when I woke up.

    I spoke to pretty much everyone else I worked with, kind of testing them.. I'd just say "We might do a minute silence today".... Not a single one of them knew why. I was fucking gob-smacked.


    Is it just my town that doesn't care? I bet in America EVERYONE paid their silent respects. But it wasn't just a sad day for Americans, it was a sad for the the whole fucking human race.

    So did everyone else hold a minute silence in their place of work? Or did anyone else forget?
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    I certainly remember... I live 2 miles from the Pentagon, I'll never forget that day.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    I haven't forgotten, and never will, I watched the second tower go down clear as day from Highlands New Jersey, right across the Hudson.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    I'm alive, they are dead. If I spent my time mourning the dead, there's more than enough for every second of every day. millions of people die every year.

    I feel for the people that lost family members, but I didn't know any of those people. Just because politics is supposed to dictate this as a greater tragedy than any other loss of life, honesty, it really has zero effect on me. you may call me a shithead for saying that, but I'm just being honest and I think everyone else is a hypocrite for validating one persons death above another's.

    I find the death of individual liberty, the notion that people are supposed to bow down in conformity or be shunned to be much more disturbing. let people mourn in their own way if they feel the need, or not if they choose to.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    I like the way this guy put it: http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/11/th...ember-11-2002/

    But yes, I remember 9/11 vividly.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    You know, I honestly woke up this morning not realizing until I went on to yahoo.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZaphodB View Post
    I like the way this guy put it: http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/11/th...ember-11-2002/

    But yes, I remember 9/11 vividly.
    I agree with his sentiment on it in general.Living in NJ I will never forget it as NY is so close.But 7 years out it may be time to not dwell on it as much as we do still do.
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    yeah, I remember 9/11/2001. America turned into nazi germany with flags flying every square foot and wanting to declare war on the world and outing every person with a dissenting view point as a terrorist and a traitor to the nation. It was a pretty scary place to be. I was never really too worried (and I still am not) about Arabs bombing Walmart and Starbucks (the places where the average American congregates). Americans seemed to be content enough to take it upon themselves to subvert freedom and democracy here, no need to wait for the terrorists to do it.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by calpoon View Post
    yeah, I remember 9/11/2001. America turned into nazi germany with flags flying every square foot and wanting to declare war on the world and outing every person with a dissenting view point as a terrorist and a traitor to the nation. It was a pretty scary place to be. I was never really too worried (and I still am not) about Arabs bombing Walmart and Starbucks (the places where the average American congregates). Americans seemed to be content enough to take it upon themselves to subvert freedom and democracy here, no need to wait for the terrorists to do it.
    Yeah that too.
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday. I'll never forget it and I never will.
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    9/11 was sad but there is one damn truth. The truth is that the world has changed so dramatically. People changed too. Generations are replaced.

    Time kinda heals the pain. I can easily put myself in the shoes of victims' relatives because i lost my dad in a damn terrible stuff. Now, it's been 11 years and i going on my way in full self-confidence with my dad's heritage aka honourable name, my love for him and my memories. I think relatives of victims' should go in this way.

    9/11 became a personal cause rather than an international stuff. I watched commemorandum on tv today. It was dramatic and tv's commendator was international relations specialist. I was like "WTF?! Still 9/11 in international relations?" You know this is what?! This is making policies over people's blood and souls.

    Since 1984, Turkey has been hit by a scumbag terrorist organisation and we have lost more than 30,000 lives. Rest of the world didn't even give a shit. This doesn't mean that i don't care 9/11. I care every piece of human life, i got sad anytime i hear bad events. I just demand equal approach to any terrorist attack in any country.
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by calpoon View Post
    yeah, I remember 9/11/2001. America turned into nazi germany with flags flying every square foot and wanting to declare war on the world and outing every person with a dissenting view point as a terrorist and a traitor to the nation. It was a pretty scary place to be. I was never really too worried (and I still am not) about Arabs bombing Walmart and Starbucks (the places where the average American congregates). Americans seemed to be content enough to take it upon themselves to subvert freedom and democracy here, no need to wait for the terrorists to do it.
    You have the right to think that's the truth, but I disagree.

    I always notice that when people want to make a point politically, especially left wing-leaning people, they use the "N" word... Nazi that is. You gotta do better than that. I've seen more personal freedoms taken away by left-leaning state governments in the last 8 years than the Federal government could dream of... so show me some examples how your freedom has been curtailed...

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spleen View Post
    So did everyone else hold a minute silence in their place of work? Or did anyone else forget?
    No one will ever forget. I think we're just at the point where we've moved on with our lives and don't feel like re-living the tragedy every chance we get.

    Personally, I hate when we "have" to re-live tragic moments from our lifetime that happened years ago; TV specials, half hour news segments, moments of silence, front page newspaper dedications, etc.

    If my parents died in a terrible car accident, I wouldn't want the people around me to constantly remind me of what happened.

    "Hey, remember when your parents died on this day?"

    "Wasn't that the worst day of your life?"

    "God, I can't believe it's been 3 years since your parents were killed in a painful head-on car collision...how the times flies!"

    "Do you want to sit around and cry together? You know, because your parents are dead?"

    We all know it happened. We all know how sad it was. Let's move on and stop trying to "hold on" to how we originally felt when it first happened.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Just because they don't have a moment of silence does not mean anything. We never have moments of silence for anything that happened in either of the world wars now. That is in the past, people have payed their respects. They had to stop sometime, anyway.
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Will the world ever forget? Not as long as America is the world power because they won't let the world forget it.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by CunningStunts View Post
    I've seen more personal freedoms taken away by left-leaning state governments in the last 8 years than the Federal government could dream of... so show me some examples how your freedom has been curtailed...
    I'm not really too sure about the lefties as far as that goes, since I come from a red state, so I can't speak for them. But for the feds, off the top of my head, the patriot act, warrantless wire taps, mandatory ID and racial profiling of suspected illegal immigrants (read: brown people) in the name of securing our borders as part of the terrorist threat rhetoric, Operation backfire, legislation under the homeland security agency to make companies dealing with hazardous waste exempt from environmental impact reports, the general attitude of the media in regards to censorship and bias, just to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calpoon View Post
    I'm not really too sure about the lefties as far as that goes, since I come from a red state, so I can't speak for them. But for the feds, off the top of my head, the patriot act, warrantless wire taps, mandatory ID and racial profiling of suspected illegal immigrants (read: brown people) in the name of securing our borders as part of the terrorist threat rhetoric, Operation backfire, legislation under the homeland security agency to make companies dealing with hazardous waste exempt from environmental impact reports, the general attitude of the media in regards to censorship and bias, just to name a few.
    And yet, there are many more illegal immigrants here in the US than before 9/11/01. So, what you are saying is that the Feds have failed in their quest to be Nazis? They aren't efficient or ruthless enough?

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by calpoon View Post
    I'm alive, they are dead. If I spent my time mourning the dead, there's more than enough for every second of every day. millions of people die every year.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChefChiTown View Post
    No one will ever forget. I think we're just at the point where we've moved on with our lives and don't feel like re-living the tragedy every chance we get.
    As I did state in my post, I was just talking about paying your own personal respects for what happened ON THIS DATE, not every day.

    I also stated that I'm not talking about the actual attacks itself, because I know no one will ever forget. I'm just talking about remembering it today. I was also trying to find out if peoples works/schools/families ETC held a one minute silence or not, because like I said, I don't know anyone who was envolved in one today.

    Quote Originally Posted by LBP 76 View Post
    Will the world ever forget? Not as long as America is the world power because they won't let the world forget it.
    I wonder if you edited your post because of what I was gonna pick up on? Humans werent to blame for the Tsunami... Natural disasters are a bit different from death and destruction caused by man.
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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Don't worry about it. With Rudy Giuliani around no one will ever forget because every time the man speaks he'll be sure to drop a 9/11 reference.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Yes people are forgetting. I recall at least 2 separate instances today where people said "Oh, thats right, it is september 11th"

    We're forgetting, but not because we don't care, we just don't think about it as much as we used to.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spleen View Post
    I wonder if you edited your post because of what I was gonna pick up on? Humans werent to blame for the Tsunami... Natural disasters are a bit different from death and destruction caused by man.
    That is one of the reasons I edited it. But my point was that all preventable deaths matter. I am not sure if the Tsunami deaths were preventable.

    I will give another example instead: 800,000 Rwandans were massacred. 3,000 in 9/11. So 9/11 means about 1/264th to me as the Rwandan massacre.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spleen View Post
    As I did state in my post, I was just talking about paying your own personal respects for what happened ON THIS DATE, not every day.

    I also stated that I'm not talking about the actual attacks itself, because I know no one will ever forget. I'm just talking about remembering it today. I was also trying to find out if peoples works/schools/families ETC held a one minute silence or not, because like I said, I don't know anyone who was envolved in one today.
    Oh, I know. You have to remember that 9/11 is no different than any other sort of anniversary. Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, even birthdays...after a while, nobody really cares anymore. Sure, we all know what day it is, we just don't care to make it a big deal.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Quote Originally Posted by CunningStunts View Post
    And yet, there are many more illegal immigrants here in the US than before 9/11/01. So, what you are saying is that the Feds have failed in their quest to be Nazis? They aren't efficient or ruthless enough?
    what are you talking about? you asked me to name some observations and I did so. I don't care about illegal immigrants, I care about harassment of US citizens. my mention of nazism was merely in regards to fervent and sensational nationalism. if you want to partake in absurdity and ignore what I was actually saying, then I guess I can't do much about it.

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    Re: Seven Years Later: Are people starting to forget?

    Considering that 9/11 knocked this country onto a course of unilateral military action against other nations in the name of promoting democracy around the world through pre-emptive war especially in the middle east (see the Bush Doctrine) while at the same time adopting a "whatever it takes" attitude when it comes to combating whatever the US government wants to label as "terrorism" by infringing upon individuals basic civil liberties by suspending habeas corpus, advocating torture, spying illegally and holding prisoners indefinately without charge. I don't think anyone will forget anytime soon.

    Although, I do think that the emotional "wounds" have healed and that most people don't give a fuck anymore.

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